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A demonstration of the two new versions of the most popular OS's!

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shizzle07 : LVL 42: VP 5: said:

shizzle07

12 votes NegativePositive

996 days 23 hours ago...

err, excuse me, but umm, WHERE DID U GET THOSE EFFECTS ON LINUX FROM? i want them, please :)

numnums : LVL 41: VP 4.9: said:

numnums

Hidden (Show Comment) -9 votes

996 days 23 hours ago...

^ which effects are you talking about?

anotheraddict : LVL 38: VP 4.6: said:

anotheraddict

12 votes NegativePositive

996 days 23 hours ago...

cool demonstration, I've been thinking about trying out Ubuntu(sp?) but have been discouraged in the past when trying to use some other unix based OS's

Now I'm impressed with the graphic abilities that were used in this clip, specially when compared directly with Vista. now my question is this : Vista does all that fancy smanshy stuff out of the box... how many hours upon hours would I have to work to get Ubuntu to do the same? most likely quite a bit of time I'm guessing.

I don't want to come off as a ubuntu hater or a microsoft lover or anything, I simply want to use a (relatively) trouble free OS. Which is why I stuck with W2000 for so long, and now use a stripped down XP with alot of personal modifications. If you could point me to a build of Ubuntu that doesn't look like crap out of the box, has some of these cool visual effects, and can play games in a proper manner please do! I am very interested.

megamonster : LVL 11: VP 2: said:

megamonster

7 votes NegativePositive

996 days 22 hours ago...

Fantastic demo. The only weigh down is that not everyone can install Linux like Windows. When this happens, we can all rejoice and Microsoft will be shakin' in their boots.

xlambda : LVL 27: VP 3.6: said:

xlambda

5 votes NegativePositive

996 days 21 hours ago...

i wanted to give this video a 4/5. but i saw that the blue screen error was included. it immediately became a 5!

exploder : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

exploder

3 votes NegativePositive

996 days 17 hours ago...

DX10 on UBUNTU == real M$ challenger

Vista == only for DX10 games, only if cracked (free)

I have been an M$ hater for years, and live in Win2k because I have to. WinXP (stripped & augmented) is my next near term target. I will NEVER buy an OS from them, and the thought of paying for something even more bloated and convoluted than XP makes me want to PUKE. But those 8800's are gonna need new DX, and we need a real alternative OS.

All the blingbling in this Ubuntu demo certainly puts Vista in its place, but more importantly, it shows a fundamentally more capable platform. I could do without the 3D fancies, but an OS that works that well is a worthy future platform for REAL next gen GUI developments.

5/5 for the very informative demo.

Paul3790 : LVL 23: VP 3.2: said:

Paul3790

4 votes NegativePositive

996 days 14 hours ago...

I really Love the Guy who made this Vid... I was forced to Use Ubuntu... BECAUSE WINDOWS INSTALLATION CANT FIND MY DAMN HARD DRIVES... and now I can see how much Eye Candy Ubuntu has :D... And now I am Happy That Microsoft or how Exploder calls it 'M$' dident found my Hard Drives :D

Hell YEAH :D

5,1/5

and 1283912/5 if you tell me how you did that with Ubuntu

rabbit20 : LVL 27: VP 3.6: said:

rabbit20

2 votes NegativePositive

996 days 14 hours ago...

5/5 for the vid! I LOVE UBUNTU,...used to be running it till i decided lets see vista i have a full copy...and a spare drive, install and that dam install destroyed the mbr of my linux drive. ahh i was so pissed. i didnt even tell vista to install on the drive, chose the spare drive and then try to boot back into linux and its GONE!!!! FUCK Microsoft!!!!! anyway ubuntu kicks ass and beryl is sooo sexy i literally played with the jello like window for hours lol

frsrblch : LVL 10: VP 1.9: said:

frsrblch

30 votes NegativePositive

996 days 14 hours ago...

I really don't care about fancy effects. I have XP, and I've used OSX some, and these have more than enough eye candy. I care more for what an OS can actually DO. Linux is great, really, and I would get it over Vista (when I upgrade my comp) any day, but can it run SupCom? Will it run Red Orchestra? Half Life? Photoshop? Rhinoceros?

Seriously, you can go on about how your OS is the greatest thing in the world, but the sad reality is that your OS does not fit the needs of most people. Most people either want their OS to be simple to set up, or they want it to run all their applications without hassle (or in my case, games). With a list of compatible games that looks like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professionally-developed_Linux_games, you're really not showing me a useful product.

I cannot understand how you argue the superiority of an OS, when it is so limited compared to the competition.

Oh, and could you have picked worse music? Seriously, my ears were bleeding there.

rabbit20 : LVL 27: VP 3.6: said:

rabbit20

Hidden (Show Comment) -23 votes

996 days 14 hours ago...

I think the music kicks ass!!!!

Ayle : LVL 13: VP 2.2: said:

Ayle

2 votes NegativePositive

996 days 14 hours ago...

It took me 15 minutes to get beryl(ubuntu doesnt do that out of the box) working but the reason why this really the beryl-ubuntu owns aero-vista is that you dont need morethat 512 of ram and even a geforce 2 can run it without problem and its far more customisable that aero.... Go Linux!

Jareardy : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

Jareardy

0 votes NegativePositive

996 days 14 hours ago...

Yeah what was the song? Also how compatible is Linux with games, I would definitely like to switch because this is free as well right? Any websites to recommend?

th3d00d : LVL 32: VP 4.1: said:

th3d00d

1 votes NegativePositive

996 days 14 hours ago...

I ain't watched the vid yet, but so you all know, its the beryl binaries that make it look soooo damn good.. Its also at a very interesting point in time as vista is probably as incompatible as linux with a lot of hardware\software\games\api's lol. might just give linux a bit more publicity.

drnathanuk : LVL 30: VP 3.9: said:

drnathanuk

0 votes NegativePositive

996 days 14 hours ago...

if people want to try the beryl effects with out changing there current OS then download Sabayon linux.

Ayle : LVL 13: VP 2.2: said:

Ayle

0 votes NegativePositive

996 days 13 hours ago...

Well for people who really want to play windows games they cant use WINE(free) or CEDEGA( you have to pay but it works for most of the new games www.cedega.com ) CEDEGA also works under MacOS X....

LOGiK666 : LVL 1: VP 1: said:

LOGiK666

4 votes NegativePositive

996 days 13 hours ago...

If Linux ran more games and apps it would own Windows.

5/5

  : LVL 18: VP 2.7: said:

 

-1 votes NegativePositive

996 days 13 hours ago...

"Now I'm impressed ... [but] how many hours upon hours would I have to work to get ..." --anotheraddict

No pain, no gain.

"The only weigh down is that not everyone can install Linux ..." --megamonster

Nothing is stopping them from learning.

"... but can it run SupCom? Will it run Red Orchestra? Half Life? Photoshop? Rhinoceros?" --frsrblch

It can.

When the shit hits the fan, some guys run and some guys stay. The people that stick around while there are benefits to reap in (like beryl) ... whine, bitch and leave through the hardships --- are pussies. Luckily, the nature of Linux weeds out pussies, and when you have spartans doing the development it can't go wrong.

2ndhandsmoker : LVL 38: VP 4.6: said:

2ndhandsmoker

2 votes NegativePositive

996 days 13 hours ago...

^THIS IS LINUX! Also, where can I get this ubuntu as you call it, and can it run battlefield 2142/half life 2?

anotheraddict : LVL 38: VP 4.6: said:

anotheraddict

2 votes NegativePositive

996 days 13 hours ago...

^^ no pain no gain? not really... my stripped XP with personal mods literally takes me 30 minutes to setup on a brand spanking new install, if it didn't take such a crapload of time investment I'd hop over to ubuntu this second... that and game compatibility. I might just have to throw it on a spare PC and see what i can do with it

  : LVL 18: VP 2.7: said:

 

1 votes NegativePositive

996 days 13 hours ago...

@anotheraddict

I can't really aruge your points: they are valid. But they don't really contradict anything I said either.

spaztaculous : LVL 29: VP 3.8: said:

spaztaculous

1 votes NegativePositive

996 days 12 hours ago...

I just want to run World of war craft on Ubuntu, if someone knows how email me the.surfing.penguin@gmail.com

Ayle : LVL 13: VP 2.2: said:

Ayle

2 votes NegativePositive

996 days 12 hours ago...

here is the link to the games list: http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/ if there is a star next to it it means that is supported. But for the people who really want to play why dont you just set up a dual boot configuration?

y3ll0w-m4n : LVL 9: VP 1.8: said:

y3ll0w-m4n

3 votes NegativePositive

996 days 11 hours ago...

Windows(Lion) vs. Linux (Ant)
what i saw was the ant pissed in the lions open mouth and laughed

ENYGMA : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

ENYGMA

3 votes NegativePositive

996 days 11 hours ago...

I don't believe Ubuntu installs with Beryl as the default desktop manager.

I had Ubuntu installed and had to add a few packages and install video card drivers, but once it was running it was pretty cool. The rotating cube desktop is really nice, and they didn't even show all of what it can do. Not sure what the point was of making those icons float around, though.

Pentaras : LVL 26: VP 3.5: said:

Pentaras

2 votes NegativePositive

996 days 11 hours ago...

I'm willing to give just about anything a try. Once I finish upgrading my primary system, I'll see if I can kitbash something and install this OS.

qwerg : LVL 1: VP 1: said:

qwerg

-5 votes NegativePositive

996 days 11 hours ago...

what a bunch of useless fucking features
I feel embarressed for them

Flynn_2006 : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

Flynn_2006

-2 votes NegativePositive

996 days 10 hours ago...

Linux can't be a superior OS than Vista. Because windows has majority if not all the supports from major corporations and developers.

Jareardy : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

Jareardy

0 votes NegativePositive

996 days 10 hours ago...

Thanks Ayle

Ayle : LVL 13: VP 2.2: said:

Ayle

0 votes NegativePositive

996 days 10 hours ago...

^And what do you think the corporations servers are running on? Maybe Windows has the biggest marketshare but Vista sucks and I'm sure many enterprise will stick to XP because they dont need all the fancy stuff in Vista.... And Linux IS superior to Vista: smaller memory footprint, runs great on legacy hardware, has any development tools you can think off,easy to use(depends of the distribution you choose), do everything windows do, run windows applications,more secure, I could continue for a long moment, etc, etc.... But in the end they are both good OS which do what they're supposed to do.... What I highly despise about this whole OS war thgy are the fanboys...

Stalls : LVL 1: VP 1: said:

Stalls

0 votes NegativePositive

996 days 9 hours ago...

ha, they had Trigun playing in the background of the Linux thing.

chechnya : LVL 1: VP 1: said:

chechnya

0 votes NegativePositive

996 days 9 hours ago...

The effects get old after a while with Ubuntu. Same with Vista. Any normal person has "Windows Classic" as a theme. LinuxXP seems like a pretty cool distro, can anyone confirm or deny?

Miles : LVL 32: VP 4.1: said:

Miles

0 votes NegativePositive

996 days 9 hours ago...

why would someone even make that music
also where can i buy lunix

Horuku : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

Horuku

0 votes NegativePositive

996 days 9 hours ago...

The only reason I'll upgrade to Vista is for DX10 and when they release SP1. XP Serves all my needs and probably will for a while to come.

ericlee88 : LVL 19: VP 2.8: said:

ericlee88

3 votes NegativePositive

996 days 8 hours ago...

Remember though, vista is not just visuals. The feature I like most is the new start menu. Now, you can just hit the window key on your keyboard and type a partial name of your program and hit enter. Like window key-> "count"->enter will start counter strike. Another feature that I like is readyboost. It basically turns any flash drive into a secondary RAM. Very soon, drivers and hardware are acutally going to work in vista. And minor bugs are going to be fixed (it's acutally not that buggy right now). And for ppl who heard games run slower on vista, that's gonna get better when new cpu and vid cards drivers come out. Overall, vista is a better OS than XP, which is what most reviews say. It just need some time. BTW, every new version of window is basiaclly slower than the previous one when it comes out.

I can't comment on linux though since i have never used it.

King Chilly : LVL 4: VP 1.3: said:

King Chilly

3 votes NegativePositive

996 days 8 hours ago...

I'm happy to be the first to say this:
Mac is dead.

SLI0701 948 : LVL 14: VP 2.3: said:

SLI0701 948

0 votes NegativePositive

996 days 7 hours ago...

damn nice vid!
thx alot

of course linux win(("dows")wierd)!

thx 5/5

AhumbleKnight : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

AhumbleKnight

1 votes NegativePositive

996 days 6 hours ago...

I have a couple of questions about this video.

1) what are the system spec's of the machines running the respective OS's?

The reason I ask is because I highly doubt that Vista was running on the same machine as its Linux counterpart.

2) How many other bits of shiny does Vista have?

It did not seem as if they were unbiased in their demonstration...

3) Correct me if I am wrong but the blue screen of death they used as a 'case in point' at the end was from a Windows OS prior to Vista. I thought it was win98... Not really relevant if it was not actually Vista.


This clip did not seem to be anything but another anti Vista, pro Linux clip made by some Linux fan. Please, correct me if I am wrong.

  : LVL 18: VP 2.7: said:

 

-1 votes NegativePositive

996 days 6 hours ago...

@AhumbleKnight

Xgl (which is what saw in this clip) requires at least a 64MB video card. I have a crappy 5 year old graphics card and can run everything you saw in this clip without a hitch. When I install Vista on this computer, I will let you know how smooth it runs. (That's a joke - don't hold your breath)

The blue screen was not supposed to be a 'case in point' - it's rubbing salt inside an open wound. That reminds me, google "rubbing xgl in vista's wounds".

So, take this comment as the correction of you being wrong.

On a different note, to the people complaining about the ads on this site: you can press F5 everytime you see an add (or whatever shortcut that refreshes the page). There is also an add blocker plugin for firefox which will block them. It's called adblock plus.

AhumbleKnight : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

AhumbleKnight

0 votes NegativePositive

996 days 6 hours ago...

^ thanks for correcting me. It is what I was after.

On the different note, I have adblock plus. It does not block them. I am not ready to manually block the ads because I don't want to risk blocking spiked by accident.

  : LVL 18: VP 2.7: said:

 

0 votes NegativePositive

996 days 5 hours ago...

Add filterset.g in addition to adblock plus. It will take care of that problem. I'm trying solutions with Opera as well. If I find something interesting I will let you guys know.

erico : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

erico

0 votes NegativePositive

996 days 2 hours ago...

I'd use it if only I could play games on it.

ahent : LVL 21: VP 3: said:

ahent

0 votes NegativePositive

996 days ago...

I don't think I would use a linux OS, historically you spend half your time developing or finding drivers so half your computer's devices to work. Reliable drivers and easy install out of the box, then you are looking at a problem for MS.

Ayle : LVL 13: VP 2.2: said:

Ayle

1 votes NegativePositive

995 days 20 hours ago...

^ "Historically" XD ..... When was the last time you tried to install linux? I think :never. The drivers are included.... The only time I had problem with my hardware was with the built in wifi on my laptop solution just use the windows drivers. And most apps can be configured with a gui you dont have to use the console...... But hey people nobody is forcing you to use Linux... I you want to try ubuntu go on the ubuntu website and burn the Live CD like that you will be able to test Linux without having to install it.

markdaking : LVL 11: VP 2: said:

markdaking

1 votes NegativePositive

995 days 20 hours ago...

dude linux is free source that means anyone can make a program or software and you can get if for free!!!

mark.

hugekebab : LVL 12: VP 2.1: said:

hugekebab

0 votes NegativePositive

995 days 18 hours ago...

pclinuxos is one to look out for coming in a few weeks (betas out now) it has beryl packaged in as well as proprietary drivers.

if you have a recent ati card like me (x1950 pro) expect a nightmare with the current version of ubuntu, it took me a couple of days to get the drivers installed correctly, then i installed beryl (installed no problem) but it wont start up because i have composite extensions disabled in my xorg file, which unfortunately is a prerequisite for getting the ati drivers to work ??? problem with ubuntu is they have a purist attitude to open source software and hence they are unwilling to package proprietary (eg latest working) drivers.

pclinuxos is going to package. you could try sabayon which is the official beryl distro, but unfortunately for me it didnt work out of the box and was incredibly buggy (basically couldnt even open an application.)

linux is very addictive, trying to fix sometimes is half the fun and hell. personally i think ubuntu has hit a bit of a brick wall, because it is unwilling to accept the fact that the latest hardware requires proprietary software support. i see little/no use in a distro that does this...hopefully this will change as apart from that ubuntu is definitly the best for beginners like me, to linux.

Dark_Stang : LVL 5: VP 1.4: said:

Dark_Stang

0 votes NegativePositive

995 days 14 hours ago...

I keep seeing all this cool stuff with beryl. But I still think fluxbox has more potential. Not to mention being a lot lighter.

Ayle : LVL 13: VP 2.2: said:

Ayle

0 votes NegativePositive

995 days 13 hours ago...

Feisty Fawn( next Ubuntu release ) will include the proprietary drivers but they will be disabled by default.... Personally I hated the proprietary ATI drivers my beryl worked for a couple of day then started crashing everytime i tried to run it, and if wanted to run beryl the 3d acceleration was disabled so it was slow my screensaver was even slower.... ATI proprietary drivers suck really bad... If you really want to use the proprietary drivers on your graphic card and use beryl stick to Nvidia.

Billy_bonkkerzz : LVL 30: VP 3.9: said:

Billy_bonkkerzz

0 votes NegativePositive

995 days 11 hours ago...

the music was so fuckin annoying.

Depodra : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

Depodra

0 votes NegativePositive

995 days 3 hours ago...

You CAN play windows games on Linux. It's called Cedega (previously WineX.)

macoafi : LVL 1: VP 1: said:

macoafi

0 votes NegativePositive

993 days 8 hours ago...

anotheraddict, you said "Now I'm impressed with the graphic abilities that were used in this clip, specially when compared directly with Vista. now my question is this : Vista does all that fancy smanshy stuff out of the box... how many hours upon hours would I have to work to get Ubuntu to do the same? most likely quite a bit of time I'm guessing."
The answer is about 5 minutes. Just go to wiki.beryl-project.org, follow the directions (copy and paste like 10 things), and it's done. It's really easy, and it uses a lot less system resources than Vista. It runs fine on my 8mb shared video memory Intel graphics, but Vista on this same computer was terrible. The screensavers couldn't even work right because it wanted 128mb dedicated.

macoafi : LVL 1: VP 1: said:

macoafi

0 votes NegativePositive

993 days 8 hours ago...

Ayle, I'm running Feisty. They aren't putting in the other drivers. The same binary ones are available in the extra repos as always, though. People with X-breakage are the ones who use drivers that aren't supported by the Ubuntu devs and in linux-restricted-modules (that's why they have to reinstall them every time there's a new kernel). They've put off "composite by default" until next time, at which point there will be Xorg 7.3 which is being called "bulletproof X" in that instead of dying, it'll go to a low-res, low-depth screen and have a configuration GUI you can use if you're afraid to touch xorg.conf that way if you DO use those other drivers, you're alright. Compiz is installed by default (but not enabled) on Feisty, though.

Takaharu : LVL 29: VP 3.8: said:

Takaharu

0 votes NegativePositive

993 days 4 hours ago...

Finally, an operating system that can send my icons flying all over the screen just to put them in a different order. Just what I always wanted!

Seriously though, Windows does everything I want when I want it to and is compatible with everything I have straight out of the box. With Vista, I don't even have to install drivers (except audio)!

Windows Vista Ultimate installed on my PC in under 25 minutes. Can Linux do that?

drz112 : LVL 6: VP 1.5: said:

drz112

0 votes NegativePositive

991 days 10 hours ago...

Dude all i have to sayis Beryl is a bitch to install it takes so much of you time it is confusing to i try finding the Iso for it but i cant find it any where any help would be appreciated. Links to theplace were i can get beryl

reedous : LVL 14: VP 2.3: said:

reedous

0 votes NegativePositive

977 days 9 hours ago...

fantastic display of prowess with an operating system that cant play any of the games i lust for and the windows modulator solution is irritating as all fuck vista may not be perfect but neither is linux so bah and humbug,ill stick with my easy to use directx 10 compatible windows vista machine.

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