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SPRING HILL — Heather Lawrence didn't know the name of the girl with the Muslim head covering, or where she was from.

But as Lawrence walked by a classroom at Springstead High School on Wednesday, the 16-year-old junior did know one thing: The girl wasn't standing for the Pledge of Allegiance.

Lawrence, an JROTC member who plans to enlist in the Army next summer, says she was aghast.

"That's one of the most disrespectful things you can do," Lawrence recalled Friday. "Even the kids who are anarchists, who hate our government, still have respect to stand."

A few bells later, Lawrence was on her way to English class when she saw the girl wearing a hijab in the hallway. Lawrence confronted her.

She told her she should stand for the pledge. And, according to Lawrence's own account and a school referral on the incident, said, "Take that thing off your head and act like you're proud to be an American."

A teacher overheard the encounter. Now Lawrence is serving a five-day, out-of-school suspension, and her parents are considering legal action.

"You have someone in the States who is able to enjoy our educational and health care systems, yet it's okay for them to be disrespectful, and it's not okay for my daughter to speak her mind," said Mark Lawrence, Heather's father. "That's her First Amendment right. That's her freedom of speech."

Springstead principal Susan Duval said school officials stand behind the punishment. Heather Lawrence violated the district's policy against bullying and harassment, Duval said. She was disciplined not for telling the girl to stand, but for her other comments — comments that Duval called atrocious.

"It makes me ill," she said. "That is not what this school is about. These students should feel safe and secure here. We may have differences of opinion, but no student should have to tolerate harassment."

After the incident, Lawrence was asked by a school staffer why she confronted the girl. "She began to rant that she was enlisting and was going to Iraq and that basically because the girl looks Middle Eastern, that makes her an enemy because all Iraqis are Middle Eastern," according to the referral signed by assistant principal Stephen Crognale.

Lawrence denies she said that or feels that way.

"Terrorists, regardless of who they are, what color they are, are the enemy," she said.

School officials would not disclose the identity of the girl. Duval said she wasn't sure if the girl is new to Springstead or why she didn't stand for the pledge.

Lawrence said the girl did not respond to her and simply walked away. Duval said the girl did not complain to school officials. Efforts by the St. Petersburg Times to find and reach her were unsuccessful Friday.

As she served her first day of suspension, Lawrence admitted Friday that telling the girl to take off her hijab was "a little over the edge." Her father agreed she shouldn't have said it.

"It wasn't meant to be a racial comment, and I wasn't trying to bash her religion," she said. "I didn't expect her to say (the pledge). I just expect her to stand up for it. If she had a problem with what I said, I'd be happy to apologize to her."

Mark Lawrence says the district needs to be taken to task for putting words into his daughter's mouth. He hopes to reverse the suspension and says he's talked to a lawyer friend of the family.

"I didn't raise my daughters to be prejudiced," he said, adding that the family dines often with friends of Iranian descent.

Heather Lawrence has her own unpleasant pledge memory.

She spent six months in Mexico while her father worked a contracting job and was booted out of a private school for not saying the pledge to the Mexican flag. But that was in Spanish — a language she doesn't know — and so she stopped trying to fake it. And, she says, she still stood up.

Flaps over flag pledging have set legal precedent. A 17-year-old junior at Boynton Beach High School refused to stand for the pledge and was removed from class, prompting a lawsuit and a ruling last year by the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. The court struck down a provision of Florida law requiring civilians to stand for the pledge.

Ramzy Kiliç, executive director of the Tampa chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said he was concerned by Heather Lawrence's apparent cultural insensitivity.

But he also said he was surprised to hear that a Muslim would not stand for the pledge. There is no tenet in the religion that encourages Muslims not to do so. "That's her right," Kiliç said. "I myself believe she should have stood."

Still, Kiliç said he was happy to hear that Lawrence was willing to say she was sorry.

"A public school reflects the demographics of America," he said. "We have to foster that, and one way to do that is for the girl to apologize. That should be the ultimate solution."

The hijab clearly made the girl a target, said Dr. Adel Eldin, a Brooksville cardiologist who practices in Spring Hill.

Eldin, who has been busy in August celebrating the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, said he hopes school officials will seize the incident as a teachable moment about his faith.

"If the principal would like to sponsor an educational night, I would be happy to talk to the kids," he said.

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bajaboy (Admin) : LVL 65: VP 5: said:

bajaboy

1 votes NegativePositive

82 days 8 hours ago...

This is what is wrong with this country today, even her own American-Islamic relations director said she should have stood. What would happen to an American in her country had they not stood for their flag??

thinkbolt : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

thinkbolt

18 votes NegativePositive

82 days 8 hours ago...

They`re both assholes. Assholes-in-training, I should say. They`re both just kids.

T1MT1M : LVL 31: VP 4: said:

T1MT1M

0 votes NegativePositive

82 days 8 hours ago...

"Terrorists, regardless of who they are, what color they are, are the enemy," she said.

"I didn`t raise my daughters to be prejudiced," he said

lol epic parenting fail

EDIT
fuck you SuperNerfed

I would have put

"After the incident, Lawrence was asked by a school staffer why she confronted the girl. "She began to rant that she was enlisting and was going to Iraq and that basically because the girl looks Middle Eastern, that makes her an enemy because all Iraqis are Middle Eastern," according to the referral signed by assistant principal Stephen Crognale. <- (Why the fuck would she lie)

Lawrence denies she said that or feels that way.

Terrorists, regardless of who they are, what color they are, are the enemy," she said."

"I didn`t raise my daughters to be prejudiced," he said

lol epic parenting fail

but making a comment like that that is in an attempt to be funny is just fucking stupid. No one wants to sit there and reread a large portion of the article again to get a small lol. I realised that I took it a small amount out of context but if YOU had the reading comprehension skills you should of learnt in year 2 you would have realised that what i copy pasta was directly below the above paragraph.

Also my definition of terrorist is the same as yours, and to me the American government are terrorists. So I don`t know where you got that what i thought was that just because they are middle eastern they are terrorists. Maybe you`re in you`re little dreamworld of makebelieve and mistook me for the girl in the article

now gtfo

SuperNerfed : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

SuperNerfed

32 votes NegativePositive

82 days 7 hours ago...

^Epic reading comprehension fail.

Pretty sure the terrorists comment is directed towards the notion of enemies both foreign and domestic, regardless of race or religion.

Terrorist being anyone who terrorizes a people and preys upon others with fear. Not YOUR racist opinion of terrorist that i`m sure is assumed to be middle-eastern.

YOu sir, are a fucking moron.

scruples : LVL 24: VP 3.3: said:

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82 days 7 hours ago...

shes cute ^_^

clicker01 : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

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82 days 7 hours ago...

Maybe if they cut the girls head off it would make the ragheads happy

Neruo_ : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

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-4 votes NegativePositive

82 days 7 hours ago...

I agree, both girls are probably assholes.

AsianNick : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

AsianNick

11 votes NegativePositive

82 days 7 hours ago...

Telling the girl to take off her headdress was a little over board as well as not standing for the pledge of allegiance, so both are in the wrong to a certain degree however I find that confronting someone who does not stand to be more wrong so. Just because you do not stand does not mean you do not appreciate what you have in this country. I think her (the suspended chick) enlisting in the military gave her a kind of "over patriotism" that I see so many military people have. And before anyone starts bashing me for saying that my family is Ex-Air Force with 2 prior generations of Marines so I know what I mean. The problem in the U.S. is that less and less people are tolerant of others and it`s so hard to be open minded.

mufasa1023 : LVL 40: VP 4.8: said:

mufasa1023

16 votes NegativePositive

82 days 7 hours ago...

This seems like the perfect case of venting your own prejudices while wrapped in the flag

there are lots and lots of things wrong with HL`s position but i`ll just point out that if she thinks it`s perfectly OK to be mean and disrespectful to the muslim girl based on her 1st amendment free speech rights, then she needs to accept the fact that the muslim girl is also within her rights to not stand up during an indoctrination speech

anoniem : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

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82 days 7 hours ago...

so many things wrong with this..
i don`t even know where to start.
so i won`t. HA

SuperNerfed : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

SuperNerfed

-3 votes NegativePositive

82 days 7 hours ago...

"Flaps over flag pledging have set legal precedent. A 17-year-old junior at Boynton Beach High School refused to stand for the pledge and was removed from class, prompting a lawsuit and a ruling last year by the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. The court struck down a provision of Florida law requiring civilians to stand for the pledge."

That`s the way it should be Mufasa.

I don`t give a shit about whether or not people respect America, I don`t even respect it and i`m American.

I do however respect the men and women that lost their lives on both sides of the conflicts that have us where we are today.

wizguy34 : LVL 32: VP 4.1: said:

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10 votes NegativePositive

82 days 6 hours ago...

I dont see anything wrong with not standing for the flag. Patriotism is a horrible thing to believe in. It only seperates people and brews hatred. I for one will stand for my rights as a human being and will fight for the rights of others foreign and domestic. Our country has a very bad history of doing many evil acts and using patriotism as a disguise to get public support for oppressing people around the world who do not believe in our capitalistic way of society. Read your history, not what they teach at schools, Howard Zinn`s "A peoples American history" is a good start for all you patriotic flag lovers who do not even know your countries history. A few good examples include: Spanish American war- instead of giving Cuba to the revolutionaries who were fighting to be free from Spain we told them to disband and we took them over at the same time we took the Philippines from Spain, by force and killing of woman and children. The Philippines fought us because they wanted to have their own government and we slaughtered many civilians because they defied us. The North Vietnamese had the popular support in Vietnam and wanted their own government not controlled by the USA and we slaughtered them and their neighbors. Read the "Pentagon Papers" for all the cover ups and secret bombings in Cambodia. The US government breaks the treaties that we signed with the native Americans, mostly for land and whenever a corporation can make a few bucks. The list goes on. Educate yourself if you are so PATRIOTIC!

Hesh_83 : LVL 22: VP 3.1: said:

Hesh_83

9 votes NegativePositive

82 days 6 hours ago...

This country is going faster down the drain than an unwanted pregnancy during prom night

wizguy34 : LVL 32: VP 4.1: said:

wizguy34

1 votes NegativePositive

82 days 6 hours ago...

Dont get me wrong about my stance for this country. It has a lot of promise. It just needs to be tweaked a bit. You know all the political corruptions, our rights slowly being striped, the war on drugs, presidents illegally starting wars, divisions of class and races. The best thing is we, a group of Americans, can fix our country only if we try together. Before you all make incorrect assumptions, I served in the NY national Guard for four years and worked as a inner city Boy Scouts Leader and before that I worked with disabled people and now I am going for my BA in physics. WORK TOGETHER

gruel : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

gruel

1 votes NegativePositive

82 days 5 hours ago...

So it`s ok to have freedom of speech against someone but not freedom to not stand your ass up when the pledge is recited? I`m a soldier myself, let`s just see this girl go through army training and what actually happens in Iraq and she`ll probably shut her bigot ass mouth. It`s not all fairy tales about heroism, honey.

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