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Capitalism: A Love Story

TRAILER: Michael Moore's new film. "It’s a crime story. But it’s also a war story about class warfare. And a vampire movie, with the upper 1 percent feeding off the rest of us. And, of course, it’s also a love story. Only it’s about an abusive relationship.”

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Panther13 : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

Panther13

18 votes NegativePositive

92 days 19 hours ago...

I love vampire movies, especially about Wallstreet-vampires, they are the goriest.

Flynn_2006 : LVL 46: VP 5: said:

Flynn_2006

15 votes NegativePositive

92 days 17 hours ago...

It`s not free market capitalism. The movie is more about oligarchy capitalism, you know the kind where government could be bought via auctions of a few.

exploder : LVL 49: VP 5: said:

exploder

16 votes NegativePositive

92 days 11 hours ago...

^ Yeah that`s right, the American kind. The real world kind. The kind we have with corrupt politicians and corrupt business people etc.. EVERYWHERE IN THE WHOLE WORLD.

I`ll tell ya what Mr. Bunny. You give me one real example where nobody steals the carrots all over the place, and I`ll stop telling you that you`re an idealistic fucking rabbit brain.

MARINE255 : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

MARINE255

2 votes NegativePositive

92 days 10 hours ago...

Capitalist utopia?

exploder : LVL 49: VP 5: said:

exploder

3 votes NegativePositive

92 days 6 hours ago...

Pure and perfect free market capitalism without corruption, is like high school physics without friction. They leave out the friction because you need calculus to include it, which is beyond the high school students. They leave out the corruption because they would have to actually admit it`s half the balance of the economy and their incomes, and it`s way beyond their greed and their egos to tell the truth.

Unfortunately the calculus of corruption is the only math that accurately accounts this real and messy world we see. If you want to know how this engine works, it has to go in the equations.

The loudest advocates of free market capitalism seem to be business people who make a lot of (vast) money by making sure there are no rules for themselves, or as very few as possible, to abide by. Rules are only for what Henry Kissinger called us little people: "useless eaters". These rich people do things like funding schools of economics to advocate their theories. Somehow, I don`t trust their economic theories, which seem to be utterly corrupted by self serving greed. They treat ideas like public good as happy accidents along the road to THEM making shitloads of money. It`s not adding up, except to the biggest inequity of wealth the modern world has ever seen.

What I see when there are no rules is not a free market, it`s RULE BY MAFIA. Oligarchy, rule by the elite.

Flynn_2006 : LVL 46: VP 5: said:

Flynn_2006

0 votes NegativePositive

92 days 6 hours ago...

^ search Estonia, Ireland and Liechtenstein then followed by maybe Hong Kong and Singapore. Country coming soon to have the most economic freedom right now is New Zealand.

Venomousvole : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

Venomousvole

-1 votes NegativePositive

92 days 5 hours ago...

^ Oh yes the shining beacon of capitalist harmony that is "Liechtenstein". maybe I`m missing something, perhaps these places ARE doing something they could be sharing with the rest of us?

I see three types of people, the people who talk to micheal moore, the people who look uncomfortable and can`t look at micheal moore, and the people who smile and walk away from micheal moore.

exploder : LVL 49: VP 5: said:

exploder

0 votes NegativePositive

92 days 5 hours ago...

^ Ireland, I see a pattern here:

Banking Scandals
The New York Times in 2005 described Ireland as the "Wild West of European finance", a perception that helped prompt the creation of the Irish Financial Services Regulatory Authority. Despite its mandate for stricter oversight, the agency never imposed major sanctions on any Irish institution, even though Ireland had experienced several major banking scandals in overcharging of their customers. Industry representatives disputed the idea that Ireland may be home to unchecked financial frauds. In December 2008, irregularities in directors loans, that were kept off a bank`s balance sheet for eight years forced the resignation of the financial regulator.

Economic commentator David McWilliams has described the collapse of Anglo Irish Bank as Ireland`s Enron.

Flynn_2006 : LVL 46: VP 5: said:

Flynn_2006

2 votes NegativePositive

92 days 4 hours ago...

^ it has collapsed and has gone away. which countries don`t have people committing crimes? If every time there is a lack of competency within a government agency and I get a quarter, I would have been the richest man on earth.

Flynn_2006 : LVL 46: VP 5: said:

Flynn_2006

1 votes NegativePositive

92 days 4 hours ago...

About Liechtenstein.

Taxation:
The government of Liechtenstein taxes both personal and business income and principal (wealth). The basic rate for the personal income tax is 1.2%. When combined with the additional income tax imposed by the communes, the combined income tax rate is 17.82%.[13] An additional income tax of 4.3% is levied on all employees for the country`s social security program. This rate is higher for self-employed, up to a maximum of 11%, making the maximum income tax rate about 29% total. Income from employment is taxed through monthly withholdings by employer.

The maximum business income tax rate is 18-20%.[2]
Estate duty Amount (SFr) Rate
The first 200,000 1%
The next 400,000 2%
The next 600,000 3%
The next 800,000 4%
On residue over 2 million 5%

The basic tax rate on wealth is 0.06% and the combined total rate is 0.89%.

Liechtenstein`s gifts and estate taxes vary depending upon the relationship the recipient has to the giver and the amount of the inheritance. The tax ranges between 0.5% and 0.75% for spouses and children and 18% to 27% for non-related recipients. The estate tax is progressive (see table opposite).

The rate above is halved if the estate passes to the spouse, children, or parents.

Economy:

Liechtenstein participates in a customs union with Switzerland and employs the Swiss franc as national currency. The country imports more than 90% of its energy requirements. Liechtenstein has been a member of the European Economic Area (an organization serving as a bridge between the European Free Trade Association (EFTA) and the European Union) since May 1995. The government is working to harmonize its economic policies with those of an integrated Europe. Since 2002, Liechtenstein`s rate of unemployment has doubled, although it stood at only 2.2% in the third quarter of 2004. Currently, there is only one hospital in Liechtenstein, the Liechtensteinisches Landesspital in Vaduz. The GDP (PPP) is $4.16 billion,[2] or $118,000 per person.

Liechtenstein`s most recognizable international company and largest employer is Hilti, a manufacturer of direct fastening systems and other high-end power tools. Liechtenstein is also the home of the Curta calculator and the principality produces a large portion of the world`s false teeth.

craptastic1 : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

craptastic1

-3 votes NegativePositive

91 days 23 hours ago...

I still think communism was better

beef n broccoli : LVL 32: VP 4.1: said:

beef n broccoli

8 votes NegativePositive

91 days 18 hours ago...

There are three types of people in the world:

1.Those with lots of money
2.Those who complain about those with money
3.Finally, those who are blissfully ignorant of the concept of money.

It comes out of thin air people! :)

Monstiere81 : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

Monstiere81

7 votes NegativePositive

91 days 3 hours ago...

No, beef n broccoli there are four types of people in the world:

Those who can count.
Those who can`t.

replicon1 : LVL 4: VP 1.3: said:

replicon1

2 votes NegativePositive

90 days 3 hours ago...

There is no single shining example of a country that bravely shuns greed, excess and corruption and puts the needs of the many ahead of the few that can afford to live like kings. They are all at it (look at what happened in innocent little Iceland last year), snouts buried deep in the trough like fat pigs trying to snort up as much financial swill as they can.
The issue here is that the amounts that have disappeared (read stolen) from the American taxpayer`s pocket is just unbelievably vast. If I lived there I`d be f*cking p*ssed right off at the moment but like most of the citizens of the "Greatest Country In The World” I`d be powerless to do f*ck all about it.

altecer : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

altecer

4 votes NegativePositive

90 days 2 hours ago...

Fuck you USA, just FUCK you for doing this to the world!

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