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Baseball's UK Heritage Confirmed

Local historians in Surrey (South East of England) have confirmed evidence that baseball was played in the UK more than 20 years before American independence.

A diary that documents a game being played in Guildford in 1755 has been verified by Surrey History Centre.

William Bray, a Surrey diarist and historian from Shere, wrote about the game when he was still a teenager.

Major League Baseball, the governing body of the game in the US, has been informed of the discovery.

Julian Pooley, Surrey History Centre manager and William Bray expert, said the diary showed the game was a well-established sport in the 18th Century and was played by men and women.

Tricia St John Barry, who owns the diary, dug out the documents last year after watching a report on BBC South Today which said the sport began in the 1790s.

Ms St John Barry remembered the old manuscript, which she had had for many years, and responded to an appeal to viewers for more information on the subject.

William Bray lived from 1736 to 1832 and worked as a solicitor, a steward of Surrey manors and a Surrey historian.

Mr Pooley said: "He kept lots and lots of diaries that we have in the Surrey History Centre but last year a new one was discovered in a garden shed and it contains his diary from 1754 to 1755.

"It contains a reference to him playing baseball. What intrigued me is he is playing it with a load of young ladies."

The diary states they had tea after the game on Easter Monday and also played cricket.

Kevin Sullivan, the Washington Post's London bureau correspondent and an avid Boston Red Sox fan, told BBC Radio Four's Today Programme: "It's a great American tradition to take things from other places and improve them.

"We've always known that baseball evolved - it wasn't invented like basketball."

There was a later historical reference to the game being played in England in Jane Austen's Northanger Abbey, written between 1797 and 1798.

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Kold_Dusk : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

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69 days 17 hours ago...

I don`t really like baseball all that much, but I like the English, so FUCK YEAH!!! or something like that...

phatpanda : LVL 22: VP 3.1: said:

phatpanda

12 votes NegativePositive

69 days 17 hours ago...

Only thing interesting to us is to find out WHO WON THE PS3!!!!!

stbasdf : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

stbasdf

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69 days 17 hours ago...

i have to pee real bad, not lying

WilliVanilli : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

WilliVanilli

3 votes NegativePositive

69 days 16 hours ago...

bahahaha i love the subtle cockiness in the quote:
"It`s a great American tradition to take things from other places and improve them."

USA! USA! USA! USA!

oh and anyone who votes me down is just jealous.

Ron Paul : LVL 30: VP 3.9: said:

Ron Paul

-2 votes NegativePositive

69 days 16 hours ago...

I love the game of baseball immensely.

rhuitron : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

rhuitron

1 votes NegativePositive

69 days 14 hours ago...

Remember the saying, "It`s American as baseball and apple pie?"

Only half true now.

Jinksie_UK : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

Jinksie_UK

0 votes NegativePositive

69 days 10 hours ago...

UK 1

US 0

Daveoss : LVL 30: VP 3.9: said:

Daveoss

-6 votes NegativePositive

69 days 9 hours ago...

^

I wish i could vote your comment up more than once lol

KashV1 : LVL 20: VP 2.9: said:

KashV1

-1 votes NegativePositive

69 days 9 hours ago...

Rounders > Baseball...

blind : LVL 40: VP 4.8: said:

blind

0 votes NegativePositive

69 days 8 hours ago...

Great article! I was on the edge of my seat the entire time!

bluflame : LVL 38: VP 4.6: said:

bluflame

2 votes NegativePositive

68 days 11 hours ago...

"It`s American as baseball and apple pie?"

Apple pie was big in the 14th century so go figure...

ratbag1410 : LVL 28: VP 3.7: said:

ratbag1410

0 votes NegativePositive

68 days 3 hours ago...

Basketball is an original US invention??? I knew there had to be one!

Kid_Blitz : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

Kid_Blitz

1 votes NegativePositive

67 days 5 hours ago...

^
Actually basketball was invented by a Canadian while working at YMCA in USA.

cavey : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

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0 votes NegativePositive

65 days 12 hours ago...

woah woah woah, you not blaming that sport on the english! Cricket is boring enough without us taking credit for fucking baseball as well!

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